Posts by just n from bethel

No worries bro. I don't mind being called a fool (I think I'm different kind of fool than the GB though), and I'm not that much older than you. Just wanted you to know that as you get a few more years of experience, and hopefully logical rationale will follow, that things will make a bit more sense. I've just had more time to read and study than you have. That's the only point I was trying to make in bringing your age up. And yes, I do have pretty decent formal uni education where I got plenty of corrective feedback that made me do the one thing JWs and pretty much any Fundie Religious belief system doesn't want me to do: think. I've had multiple professors tell me my then-thinking on history and science was bogus and unfounded on logic or proven studies and principles. It hurt my pride to learn that what I believed was just emotional based presuppositions, but it made me a better person. One that could really start to think and find truth and real humanity.

I was never born again and didn't claim to be - but I was and am still open to being proven wrong. If the Bible is true - than there should be irrefutable proof of all of its accounts in entirety. But no such proof has ever been shown, and I have looked and prayed read the bible multiple times over, and done a lot more than you could possibly imagine. Which is why it now bores me.

But, coming off a lifetime of being a JW is like coming off a lifetime of heroin. For me I can't quit cold turkey, as much as I want to, so I try to find humor in my old belief system. JWN allows me to have that outlet. Some of such beliefs coincide with other Xian beliefs, such as God killing babies. Xians believe it happened and will happen, just like the JWs. There is so much irony and nuttiness in that core belief of Xianty, that I had to make a thread about it - to laugh and get it off my chest. One day, I suppose, I'll even get bored laughing about it. I hope it's soon.

In the meantime, best wishes to you and your family, whatever belief system you find yourself with. Respect.

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What sort of person is GB member Guy Pierce?

by VM44 in

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does anyone know anything about the gb member guy pierce?.

what is his background?.

what sort of personality does he have?.

just n from bethel

Dan's right - the JWs have taught that one day they'll get the ok from HQ to start preaching: "you're doomed and are about to die". 'want an Awake? Want to Study? Too Late punks - should've sent in that request for a bible study on the tract my 7 year old left in your door next to the pizza flyer. Yeah - that was Jesus directing the work - can't say he didn't try to warn you.'

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If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children?

by just n from bethel in

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i just looked up some population statistics.

i saw there are over a billion children under the age of 10 on the earth today.

(didn't research too hard - just googled it.

just n from bethel

I promise you haven't offened me. That's impossible to do with me, especially on an anonymous internet forum. I'd have to be the world's biggest baby to let words here get under my skin. Does all this talk of others not knowing their bible by a recent born-again 30 year old bore me? Yes indeed.

I'm quite confident, I could easily pick apart your version of bible theology as many others have already done. From your interpretation of Bible accounts I'm quite sure I can say I know it way better than you. I know you believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible accounts so stick with them if you want. Go on believing that the flood happened worldwide exactly as described in the Bible. That Jehovah killed babies and did so violently and barbaric all for a just and good reason. And believe that he will do it again. JWs and Xians apparently do agree on some things. But you have never in any of your posts put up any evidence to show this is true and factual - the math just doesn't exist for the past events to even be possible. So - yes, you believe in fairy tales. It is because you want to - not because you've found evidence to support your beliefs. I just don't care about arguing over biblical theology. Leolaia, TD, Terry, and others have shown the Bible to be so fictional on so many levels, there's no need for me to add anything further - because, frankly, it's such a bore at this point in my life.

But it's fine with me if you want to believe that you've got sound evidence for belieiving in the bible even though you can't provide proof. And believe it or not, even if you believe that God is going to kill "1/3 of the world's population" for not belieiving in mythical stories with no evidence to back them, I still tolerate your beliefs. Even if you well know that the prediction the bible makes to kill off the unbeliever population includes possibly a billion helpless children - that's cool that you can rationalize it. JWs do the same thing, and I still tolerate, even love many of them. That's my peaceful motto from now on. Tolerance, even the wacko Xian beliefs.

You believe that God magically uses his spirit to call specific individuals, mainly those living in western Judeo-Christian parts of the world, fair enough. I believe that our innate sense of rationality and logic and search for truth is calling you to seek reality. To seek what it really means to be human. To seek the truth: that a hope that billions will die at the hand of a brutal God-induced violent day of judgement, including millions of children, well - that's not a real hope. That is a bible-based hope though, it's just not real, like the majority of bible accounts or it's descriptions of god aren't real.

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If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children?

by just n from bethel in

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i just looked up some population statistics.

i saw there are over a billion children under the age of 10 on the earth today.

(didn't research too hard - just googled it.

just n from bethel

Oh and just so you know Dan, I'm a bit older than you and have read the Bible (many translations) cover to cover many times through. It gets old listening to you say that people here haven't really read the bible but pick and choose. You seem to be more about picking and choosing with the whole 'evil idol worshiping ancient cultures kill children = bad' vs. 'Big Bad Awesome Jewish Christian God kills children = good".

You have some serious cognitive dissonance going on and you can't even see it. You really need to look into yourself. I know you're afraid that your beliefs based on your presuppositions of when and where you were born - just won't be true. It's a scary thought, I know, I've been there. But if you're really interested in truth and not fairy tales, then you'll have to start thinking logically with fact based research, and not on emotions that come from your environment and tradition-based background.